Saturday, September 27, 2008

New Board: 9'4" Stamps CAD Wireframe

Here it comes! Rumor has it it'll be done next weekend. Check it out:

A bigger guy's shralp-stick. Keep it relatively fat, 29.5", kind of thick and really curvy. The width is key here- the board's got to be paddle-able. Full report to follow!

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srfnff said...

Hey John,

What's the bottom look like? SUP bottoms with nothin' but vee aren't going to be all that stable even at 29.5". The Surftech Takayamas are almost all vee bottom nose to tail. They surf like performance longboards, but will wear you out quick 'cause they're so tippy to stand on. I kinda favor the concave to double barrel concave to light vee in the tail. What about you?

John Ashley said...

Yep- agreed on the vee bottoms being tippy.

Tim's small boards are remarkably stable for how small they are- I haven't talked to him too much about what he's done to the bottom on this one- he said it's got some good stuff going on- so I'm excited about it.

On my 10er it's got a flat spot right were you stand to double concave out the tail- that board is also at 29.5" and it's an easy paddler. It feels like a surfboard.

Guys who are smaller than me who ride Tim's SUPs are all pretty much on 9'ohs now- I think you'd be pretty amazed at what those things surf and paddle like- you, at your size, could easily surf one and still log the miles you like to do.

My friends paddle their 9ers from Latigo to Dume that's almost 8 miles round trip- not a problem.

I'll post up a full review with many photos once I get my grubby little hands on it!

srfnff said...

I'll look forward to reading your review John. But to continue...

I'd love to try one of Tim's short SUPs. If he can put together one that's lose and maneuverable in the surf, while being a good paddler, then he will have hit upon the "Holy Grail" of SUP.

There's a lot of stability nose to tail in almost any SUP. That longitudinal axis isn't usually the problem. It's the rail-to-rail width and the bottom configuration that makes the board stable or unstable imho.

As for paddling I think the old axiom still holds true...more rocker, more maneuverable, less rocker, a better paddler, but a stiffer surfing board.

Just talking use your board a lot in beach breaks where quickness and short duration burst speed is important. Your boards "roundy" shapes look good for this kind of surfing. But how does your board hold in on late and steep take-offs, and does it produce the kind of consistent down the line speed necessary to make those long, drawn out sections on point and reef breaks, like what we have up here?

I guess you're just going to have to bring up a quiver of boards sometime this winter for "field testing."

Via con dios amigo...(where was that place again?).

PS - I'll be down your way for the Sacred Craft Conference in a couple weeks. Let's hook up...I'll fly for the donuts if you'll spring for the beers.

Anonymous said...

nice new gear.when they say next week they are really saying next month.captneg9.

John Ashley said...

Hey Gary-

I'm pretty sold on the template of my 10'0 as a do-it-all type board- it works in all types of surf, point, reef and beach break.

When are you going to cross over and have a board made for you?

Too bad you couldn't have that Takyama made an inch and a half wider so it'd be more user friendly- that's the downside to molded stuff you're stuck with what they give you.

A huge failure being the new molded shorter boards which were made super narrow. I know tons of guys who are so pissed at their little C4s- they can't balance on 'em long enough to surf!

Mahi 2 was a progression off of Mahi 1 - I see Mahi 3 as a lateral move- a branch off the tree. We'll see.

Beers never a problem- let me know if you want to go for a paddle!